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Henry Adaso

Why Nick Cannon is Wrong About Eminem

By , About.com GuideMay 12, 2009

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Nick Cannon won't be picking up Eminem's new album, Relapse, when it hits shelves on May 19. "Bagpipes from Baghdad," one of the songs on Relapse, takes aim at pop stars, including Eminem's ex-girlfriend and Nick's current wife Mariah Carey. As expected, this didn't sit well with Nick Cannon. The song includes the following lyrics, "Mariah whatever happened to us. Why did we ever have to break-up?" He then turns his attention to Cannon, "Nick Cannon, you better back the f--k up. I'm not playing, I want her back, you punk."

Nick Cannon responded via his blog with a long-winded rant about Eminem (he later removed the post). "Not only has his music not evolved, but also homeboy is still obsessed with my wife," he said. He then criticized Eminem for being racially insensitive. "I realized that this so-called man has just disrespected, one of the world's most significantly influential artists, one of the most notable BLACK females of our time, the incredibly cherished, globally loved and world-embraced woman of color, Mariah Carey."

Mariah Carey is undoubtedly one of the greatest vocalists of our time and Cannon is justified in his disdain for Eminem. But racism has nothing to do with anything in this case. Eminem disses pop stars, black or white, all the time. Why then did Nick Cannon bring it up? Well, it reeks of an attempt to ride on the recent wave of racial tension in hip-hop, thus gaining the moral high ground. History has taught us that it's always advantageous to control the high ground in combat. Nick can't match Eminem's level of lyricism in a rap battle, so he resorts to cheap shots.

One way to gain this upper hand is to portray your opponents as hopelessly unethical. Or racist. Cannon's remark is nothing more than blind ignorance and overblown rhetoric designed to mask the lack of substantive support, ultimately obscuring relevant elements of the presumed battle.

Take it to the mic, fellas.

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May 12, 2009 at 6:37 pm
(1) Def says:

I agree about the racism issue. But why did Eminem spit those lyrics anyways?

May 12, 2009 at 7:08 pm
(2) angelina says:

every one knows mariah carey wanted eminem to get serious with him an he wasn’t havin it. he talks about it in “superman.” Nick cannon is just mad because someone got to her first and doesn’t care about her being his wife and exposing it.

May 12, 2009 at 7:30 pm
(3) Scott says:

Eminem spit those lyrics because he knew it would stir up controversy and in this case it’s also giving free publicity to his new album. Nothing wrong with that.

May 12, 2009 at 9:59 pm
(4) teeeheee says:

ahahahahhahahahahahha i hate em he doesnt care bout any 1 jk!!!!!!!!! i

May 13, 2009 at 1:18 am
(5) Bryan says:

@Nick Cannon…He’s Hilarious!

May 13, 2009 at 6:50 am
(6) bruce farrell says:

I’m another white boy,
have always thought Em was basically talentless,affected.Only one white rapper has ever had soul and that’s EVERLAST.
If not for his army of 15 year old wannabe,whiteboy rappers who’ll never get it(that they can’t simply emulate a culture and soul they can’t even conceive of)he’d be performing in front of a mirror.

May 13, 2009 at 8:57 am
(7) friend says:

What Nick was saying is that Eminem DOES have a track record of disparaging black women.
Mariah, though most don’t see it, is part black. He is also disrespecting her black husband.
Everyone is telling this black man to get over your wife being called a whore.
This isn’t some random woman. This is an international superstar vocalist who is being called a whore on record!
I don’t remember Whitney, Barbara, heck even Madonna being talked down to like that nor their husbands by any fellow artist ever!

When it came out what Eminem said about black women (in the past in the past, ok) there was no real uproar. Let one of these black rappers get caught saying something about white women and white men will jump up and not buy their records big time.

Black men don’t stick up for black women ever! Nick stuck up for his woman and his fellow black men clowned him.

Deep down what Nick said was correct. Maybe most don’t like it and many shy away from race but Eminem was wrong. And it’s very disheartening the number of people who feel Nick is the one who should be ashamed.

July 23, 2011 at 8:28 pm
(8) commonsense says:

your a moron this has nothing to do with race

May 13, 2009 at 10:31 am
(9) jenny says:

Yeah here here well done Henry
Love Eminem
hes a very good buisness man hahahaha
good job Marshall
xxxxxxxxxxxxx

May 13, 2009 at 12:07 pm
(10) Aaron says:

@ friend

He did disrespect lots of other white female singers. Including Britney Spears . . .

May 13, 2009 at 2:17 pm
(11) supasta says:

Yeah! Shady still shady; He is just doing his thangs. We all know him for being controversial.He started S***t just to attract everyone attention and he got it. This just Shady being shady. So no surprise, no racial issue either…

May 13, 2009 at 3:12 pm
(12) Alexis says:

Get the facts right, please. Just because Eminem dissed Mariah in a few songs doesn’t make her his “ex-girlfriend” as you’ve written. There are two sides to every story and Mariah has vehemently denied they were dating.

September 30, 2011 at 11:55 am
(13) koolcid says:

he has voicemails from her… they had a relationship whether she admits it or not.

May 13, 2009 at 4:00 pm
(14) swift says:

okay mr. adaso. what would you say if he called your wife a whore? yes perhaps race is not the issue. But what black man would let anybody, black or white call their wife a whore?

May 13, 2009 at 5:47 pm
(15) RealTalk says:

First of all em beein racist? Is nick beein serious all of eminems best friends are black not half black but full black(D12,dre,50 cent,obie,royce) kinda hard 2 believe he’s racist…also em is known to speak his mind and he doesn’t care who he insults dats just his way of beein n everybody has 2 stop getting all hurt just because he’s white and da ppl he is attacking are white dat doesn’t mean he’s a racist,he’s just obviously still mad at da fact that mariah broke up wit him…oh n its not like he hasn’t diss other ppl dat are more influential or in higher positions (ms cheney n yes george bush) but does r white ppl so it dnt matter right?….ppl have to stop makein it a white and black issue..if it had been a white( full white) girl he had diss dere would have not been so much of a controversy…

May 13, 2009 at 10:41 pm
(16) kage says:

“Nick can’t match Eminem’s level of lyricism in a rap battle, so he resorts to cheap shots.”

- and smh at Nick Cannon and all y’all thinkin’ that Em gives a sh!t n thinks he’s bein’ serious. this is what Shady feeds off of.

May 13, 2009 at 11:22 pm
(17) Renee says:

Eminem is so not racist. I am so sick of the “race” card being used. Slim cuts everyone down. I think that a lot of stars think they’ve made it when someone sings about them, good or bad. It’s all what you have to expect being in show biz. Em is the best rapper out there, and anyone who doesn’t think he’s any good is just jealous.

May 14, 2009 at 12:54 am
(18) Robert says:

Wow..you definitely took Nick Cannon’s comment way out of proportion. Just because Nick Cannon happened to mention Mariah Carey’s color does not give reason to assume that Nick Cannon is trying to use the race card. Cannon just provided a description of his wife. Nick Cannon is still on point for describing what his wife is, a notable artist, and one of the most influential black figures. Sometimes color can be mentioned without racism being involved.

May 14, 2009 at 2:47 am
(19) Sir says:

Em needs to get a life (and a wife). Nobody can ever deny the man’s lyrical skills. No question. Yes, he is a better rapper than Nick Cannon. However, Em’s comment makes him sound plain jealous. Let’s leave the racial card out of the equation. You have one man trying to humiliate another man, and using his wife as bait, on a record! What rapper in history, besides Tupac Shakur, ever did such a ridiculous thing? Didn’t we learn anything from that entire fiasco? When and where is the line drawn? Em needs to grow up.

May 14, 2009 at 4:56 am
(20) Dannette says:

To number 7 – what are you on about? he doesn’t only say things about black woman, he says things about white women all of the time. look at the jessica simpson and amy winehouse impersonators in his video. it’s nothing to do with race, you need to get a grip.

and to number 16 – your blind if you couldn’t read that he was playing the race card. did you read the full blog? he goes on about it for about a third of the letter.

I don’t even like eminem but i absolutely agree nick cannons been such a tosser and should be absolutely embarrassed.

May 14, 2009 at 7:59 am
(21) Mr.Ford says:

Em….f**kin lesbian shouldn’t of had her legs in ythe way. Now she’s pregnat & gay…missing her legs & beggin to stay…..

May 14, 2009 at 8:50 am
(22) Mr.Ford says:

Em….f**kin lesbian shouldn’t of had her legs in the way. Now she’s pregnat & gay…missing her legs & beggin to stay…..

Nick Cannon blows ballz & so does his show…& who gives a sh*t if Ems racist….who’s not racist now days. The race card is played. Maybe Nick should take his own adive on the whole ” grown man sh*t” invite Em to his gay little show as a guest host & spend the half hour battling. Then every1 would see nick for the lame duck he really is…..

May 14, 2009 at 2:48 pm
(23) Aime says:

Em & Nick both men,just a looser and a getta about a girl, Im african leaving in China, Cant see the N’s show but Em kills the dude in da tune and I recon the beef started some where coz Em couldnt go nasty that way without the Nick to piss him off som’how. but the race card is not played as far as I know.For where am from A MAN gotta defend his crib with wateva it takes.N dissiz show biz man u can say crap or good staff wit o witout a reason to stay in the game(or blow away like som artist an no come back).

May 14, 2009 at 8:02 pm
(24) overthecounter says:

again, why bring that up? what did those people do to him? in a certain way his songs are like tabloids, that’s what the people want.

May 15, 2009 at 1:22 am
(25) mayae says:

everybody knows marias’s a whore how many guys in the music biz have hit that?…………….dont worry i’ll wait

May 15, 2009 at 2:58 pm
(26) TruBeats says:

I wanna see him go up against Eminem haha, I ain’t heard Eminem rip anyone to peices lately, i think it’s overdue

Rap Beats

May 16, 2009 at 9:38 pm
(27) Adrian says:

Bottom line is that Eminem is a smart ass and is always taking aim at celebrities. True, Mariah is a legend and shouldn’t ever be degraded so much as to be included in one of Em’s infamous lyrical rants, but he doesn’t give a damn. He has no respect for his fellow celebrities and he will never stop talking crap. Nick just stood up and said something and now people are tripping on him. He’s got a right to stand up for his wife.

May 23, 2009 at 12:05 am
(28) anjlove says:

eminem is an ignorant bastard,period,point blank!!!

May 23, 2009 at 11:53 am
(29) DIAMOND says:

get real people… bottom line is he knows the recipe for what people wanna hear. Most people think its funny.. i mean really, its just music, i mean words. He is an artist with words. And bottom line dont listen to it if u dont like it. Common sense tells me if there is something i dont like to hear i dont listen. Simple as that. If anything ya gotta give to him for keeping it interesting and REAL. Kinda like a comedian. If a comedian was to say the same stuff it would most likely not be an issue. I mean really he is a comical lyricist who can also be serious when the time calls for it. Rap is basically a sport with expanded boundries. If u cant handle the heat, get out the kitchen

May 23, 2009 at 11:55 am
(30) Diamond says:

hi did i just type all that for nothing

August 26, 2009 at 8:56 pm
(31) JASMINE says:

WELL I DONT THINK EMINEM WAS WRONG FOR TALKIN STUFF ABOUT MARIAH CAREY, BECAUSE SHE WAS OK WITH EM TO LAY DOWN WITH HIM WHEN THEY WERE “HE SAY SHE SAY: DATING. SO AS FOR MARIAH “HEY DONT DENY IT”. BUT IF HE IS LYING ON HER P*SSY THEN I GIVE NICK CANNON PROPS FOR STANDING UP FOR HIS OLD A** WIFEY. BUT WHAT I DONT GIVE PROPS IS THE STATEMENT NICK MADE ABOUT EMINEM SAYIN ” Not only has his music not evolved, but also homeboy is still obsessed with my wife” PLEASE NICK GIE IT A REST THE B*TCH IS OLD AS DUST, IF YOU ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ANYBODIES MUSIC PLEASE TALK ABOUT YOUR SONG “GIGOLO” PLEASE YOU HAD TO HOOK UP WITH THE NASTY MAN ALIVE TO MAKE A WACK SONG (RKELLY) BUT HES A NOTHER STORY.
BUT FOR ALL YALL THAT FEELING EM_-GOOD JOB!!!

AND ALSO IM BLACK AND THE RACE CARD IS PLAYED COME ON NICK COME UP WITH A BETTER ARGUMENT

LIKE:
1) YOUR WIFE GETTING HER STOMACH COVERD WIT EMS BABIES
2) EM CALLING YOUR WIFE A WHORE SLUT LIAR
3) COMMING BACK WITH SOME HARDER SONGZ
4) GETTING SOMEONE TO SCRAPE YOUR FACE OFF THE FLOOR AFTER YOU HEARD EMS SONG “WARNING”

LOL

THATS ALL

FOLKS

August 26, 2009 at 9:01 pm
(32) JASMINE says:

OH I FORGOT TO SAY

I LOVE YOU SO MUCH EM

FINALLY SOMEONE HAS PUT THAT CRADDLE ROBBER (MARIAH CAREY) IN PLACE

BITCH NOT SO INNOCENT NOW IS SHE

October 27, 2009 at 10:42 am
(33) ... says:

If Eminem is indeed racist, he must hate the man who got him a record deal and his wife. You guys look at race instead of how someone acts? Have you considered that Eminem calls her a whore because she is one? He disses Cheney too, no ones bitching about racism there.

November 1, 2009 at 1:59 pm
(34) Squirt2013 says:

There’s no race issue here.

November 1, 2009 at 2:01 pm
(35) Squirt2013 says:

Okay, Bruce Farrell, I’m not a 15 year-old white BOY wannabe rapper, and I like Em. That’s just some stereotypical bull crap.

November 1, 2009 at 2:05 pm
(36) Squirt2013 says:

I agree, RealTalk.

November 1, 2009 at 2:11 pm
(37) Squirt2013 says:

I’ll give Nick Cannon this: He’s hot. That’s about it.

November 9, 2009 at 4:59 am
(38) sean says:

nick cannon is a B word and mariah has to know emienm is goin to have the last laugh and nick better hope they never meet face to face like adults

November 14, 2009 at 9:05 am
(39) anon says:

@’friend’ : a) eminem disses both black and white women its just his thing he pretty much disses everyone..b) every single black rapper raps about women of all races. the thing with rappers is that race doesnt matter to them. and eminem is rapping about something that has nothing to do with race!! why cant u people get that? hes angry coz mariah is denying that they ever happened..and she should totally admit it..sure, he shouldnt over react, but come on, shes acting stupid..every1 knows they were together at a point, she should just admit it and shut up. eminem has the upper hand anyway, she cant match that :P

January 10, 2010 at 5:44 am
(40) Whatever says:

I am also not a fifteen year old white boy. I’m a twenty-something BLACK woman and I have listen to Em since I was sixteen. There is no race issue here. The issue is Maria Carey lying and Em getting angry over it. I have never liked Nick and, yes, he is an inferior rapper, but you have to give him a break: his wife has been systematically called a whore and liar for years (which has been and will no doubt continue to be amusing to us fans). So he sputtered out some lame retort, felt embarrassed, and erased it. I think Em’s “The Warning” pretty much wraps it up. Maria should just be an adult and ignore Em. Retaliating is only feeding his controversial fire. She doesn’t even realize she’s helping him out, lol. Nick should do the same: just ignore. As for us fans, we’ll all just sit back and enjoy.

August 2, 2010 at 4:52 pm
(41) BIzZNEs says:

OMG EM… #1 album for 5 weeks…
thats all you can say..’

Mariah Carey is a whore and she isn’t all black so cut tha race card..
She should have left it at what it was, and not try and play my homie…

Nick Cannon isn’t her husband
He is her Bently Fonsworth.. lmfao

Hey get mad I don’t care!!

I got Em album and love it!! POW

August 10, 2010 at 4:19 pm
(42) A_BlackMan says:

All respected Rap battles have been same gender disses. This is the only one that I know of where a small white man disrepect a Black Woman. Grow a pair and take on Gucci Mane he was in the Vid with Mariah. What cha got to say about that?

November 27, 2010 at 10:09 am
(43) ody says:

@A_BlackMan, Small white man? Black woman? Please hear urself! Gucchi Mane? Pls dnt insult EMs lyrical prowress. It wud take someone as good as Nas stop him lyrically. Em would simply wear him and trample him on the ground. Besides, the feud doesnt involve him anyway. I just feel sorry 4 nick cuz all of this is realy nt his fault. The best thing is to ignore EM. I dnt blame him 4 standing up 4 his wife. It was a brave attempt. Anyway, he shud hav bin smarter dan 2 play d race card, Desperation got the better of him. BTW Im nt just black, Im a Nigerian

February 27, 2012 at 7:28 am
(44) JPP202 says:

I can’t believe how ridiculous some of these comments are…Em disses everyone because he knows that will sell his records…Mariah went back at him on more than one occasion and only then after that did things get real. She should have just ignored and realized its just to make money…No racism, sexism, whateverism about it.

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